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November 09, 2006

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Dr. Andrea Brisson

This article is right on! Knowing the fallicy that germs cause disease, your explanation reinforces such information and explains it a new and improved way that I will share with my patients. Thank you for such a great webiste!

Nick

Hi,
I've been looking at this area for a few weeks now and my poor befuddled brain is totally confused. Could someone help explain this to me. "germs don't cause disease". Hmm. So when the child "catches" chicken pox from another child, it was not caused by germs or the chicken pox virus. I can see that the virus might not take hold if the child were sufficiently "robust", but surely the agent of disease must have been the virus.
When the Spanish invaded South America, the indigenous population suffered heavy deaths, it is thought, by the small pox and chicken pox virus. So if it was not the germs that killed them what did? I saw a picture of a native girl who had been preserved by some fluke from this period. Her teeth and skin were perfect, indicating a healthy diet & lifestyle. So if it was not the virus that killed them what did?

Are you saying that the description of the immune system in A&P books is totally fabricated? We do not have cells that detect and destroy invading organisms? Do we have natural killer cells that destroy non-U proteins. Do we not need immune system suppressants to avoid the body rejecting transplanted organs?

I have read that it is the pH of the blood that kills the micro organisms - is that so? The next step of saying that an alkalising diet would restore pH to protective levels difficult to fathom. The body regulates ECF pH via the lungs and kidneys (provided it sufficient minerals at its disposal.

Surely the immune system must exist and protect us from invading organisms. However, I believe that evolution conferred defensive mechanisms on the individual cells that make up our bodies. These cells depend on the correct balance of nutrients in the ECF that feeds them. Evolution made it so because the nutrients were always present. Cellular health also depends on having their waste removed. Invasion of the cells by external agents (virus, bacteria, toxins, parasites) is the ultimate cause of disease - but sometimes it is the cells of the bloodstream that are invaded (eg macrophages in malaria) and cells of the immune system (HIV).

So I still believe that "germs" exist and cause disease by seriously impairing cellular function or destroying them entirely. Germs are not the only agents of disease. So why is it that people claim that the immune system does not kill them?

I am still prepared to believe that vaccination does not work - simply because of lack of evidence that is does, and other evidence that it does not. However, this does not imply there is no immune system as described in A&P books. So if germs do not cause disease, how does measles transfer to another child? If there were no immune system, how does increasing resistance by exposure to "germs" increase resistance?

Also on one hand it is argued that vacination is ineffective, but the "disease" can be caused by vaccination. Surely the vaccine containing the virus is then the causitive agent - but then this could not have caused any disease, because "germs do not cause disease".

The arguments do not seem logical.

I must be missing something. I'd be grateful if someone would enlighten me.

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